親愛的朋友們，親愛的雪友們，你們有沒有設(shè)想過自己80歲的時(shí)候在做什么？坐在搖椅上打瞌睡?和老友們聚會(huì)聊天，說，“老了老了，走不動(dòng)了。。”在美國加州太浩湖邊，有一位滑雪愛好者，他今年也80歲了，他在做什么呢？
? ? ? ? ? ?·他依然每年滑雪四五十天
? ? ? ? ? ?·他依然熱情洋溢地教學(xué)生滑雪
? ? ? ? ? ?·他是滑雪場年齡最大的教練（非官方記錄）
? ? ? ? ? ·雪季末，他得了滑雪學(xué)校的一個(gè)大獎(jiǎng)，獎(jiǎng)勵(lì)他對這項(xiàng)運(yùn)動(dòng)幾十年如一日的專注熱愛
80歲，他把自己的人生活成了一個(gè)傳奇！
你可知道，60歲的時(shí)候，在他退休以后，他才拿了美國滑雪教練協(xié)會(huì)的一級教練證書，67歲的時(shí)候，他拿了三級教練證書（注：三級是美國最高級的教練證書）。如果你熱愛什么，任何時(shí)候開始都不晚！
他就是Joseph Hayes,約瑟夫.海恩斯,我所敬愛的朋友和導(dǎo)師。在雪季結(jié)束前的一個(gè)傍晚，我約了他聊聊滑雪，聊聊人生（想練習(xí)英文的朋友，文末有訪談的英文全文J）。
(圖片：Joe Hayes，攝影：Brad Coman）
我們在南太浩湖的一家星巴克見面。陽光懶洋洋地照著，話題很自然地從夏天開始。
Sue:夏天快來啦，我聽說你喜歡騎山地車，多久騎一次呢？夏天還做哪些其他的運(yùn)動(dòng)呢？
Joe:騎山地車大約一周兩次，還去爬一次山。今年我還打算玩一下立槳沖浪。（畫外音：永遠(yuǎn)充滿好奇，勇于嘗試新鮮事物，是不是保持一顆年輕的心的秘訣呢？)
(圖片：太浩湖立槳沖浪，來自網(wǎng)絡(luò)）
Sue:我的父母一直試圖讓我別滑雪了，因?yàn)樗麄儞?dān)心我受傷。如果我讓你去和他們談?wù)劊銜?huì)告訴他們什么呢？
Joe:生活本身就很危險(xiǎn)啊！你就算下樓梯還可能摔斷腳踝呢。經(jīng)常鍛煉總比不活動(dòng)好啊。
Sue:我完全同意！但是他們覺得我可以試試那些危險(xiǎn)性更低的運(yùn)動(dòng)，比如游泳和打太極拳啥的。我游泳啊，但是那和滑雪沒法比。
Joe:我理解你父母。我有個(gè)孫子，自由式滑雪和踢足球都很棒。他有希望通過踢足球拿到大學(xué)獎(jiǎng)學(xué)金。我也有點(diǎn)希望他踢足球多一點(diǎn)，滑雪少一點(diǎn)，因?yàn)樘咦闱蛭ｋU(xiǎn)性更低。不過，我也看到了滑雪如何點(diǎn)亮了一個(gè)人的生命。我教過一個(gè)學(xué)生，她因?yàn)榘┌Y差點(diǎn)死了。能夠幫助她通過滑雪體驗(yàn)下戶外運(yùn)動(dòng)的樂趣，我覺得很有成就感。我同時(shí)也學(xué)會(huì)了更加有耐心。
Sue:太對了！我記得咱們一起教過的那位70歲的女士。你能想象有人在那個(gè)年齡還敢于第一次嘗試滑雪嗎？真是很激勵(lì)人！不過，滑雪確實(shí)還是有風(fēng)險(xiǎn)的。你是怎么控制風(fēng)險(xiǎn)來避免受傷呢？
Joe:對我來說，最重要的風(fēng)險(xiǎn)控制策略就是保持良好的身體狀況。我每周鍛煉6天。除了前面提到的騎車和爬山，我還去三天健身房。在健身房里我做有氧，拉伸和力量練習(xí)。每天早上起床后我也在家里進(jìn)行拉伸：這套拉伸的動(dòng)作包含一些瑜伽動(dòng)作，還有一些我之前從Robin Barnes (注:國家演示隊(duì)隊(duì)員)和Greg Lyons（注：美國滑雪教練協(xié)會(huì)西部區(qū)總監(jiān)）那里學(xué)到的一些動(dòng)作。我還用一個(gè)泡棉滾筒幫助放松腿部和后背的肌肉。(畫外音：想滑雪到80歲嗎，鍛煉起來吧！）
(圖片：泡棉滾筒，來自網(wǎng)絡(luò)）
Sue:你是如何發(fā)現(xiàn)自己熱愛滑雪的呢？
Joe:我開始滑雪是在23歲。那時(shí)候我在學(xué)校教書，參與了一個(gè)教小朋友滑雪的項(xiàng)目。我自己學(xué)會(huì)了滑雪，并且開始教10到11歲的小朋友滑雪。我一開始就喜歡上了滑雪，從那以后再也沒有停過。（畫外音：快60年了啊！）
Sue:大家都和我說三級教練證書非常難拿，對你來說有哪些挑戰(zhàn)，你是如何克服的呢？
Joe:我其實(shí)三次都沒過，決定放棄了。但是我繼續(xù)不停練習(xí)。我經(jīng)常跟著一些三級教練滑。有一天，我在滑蘑菇的時(shí)候遇到了Tim Rankins（注：三級教練，美國滑雪教練協(xié)會(huì)考官），他問我為啥不考三級，我說，我放棄了，他說，你這次去一定能過。于是我就去考了并且考過了。。（畫外音：堅(jiān)持不懈，是任何成功的法寶！）挑戰(zhàn)嘛，對我來說，在蘑菇道上的中回轉(zhuǎn)是個(gè)很大的挑戰(zhàn)。
Sue:你喜歡怎么滑呢？每個(gè)雪季大約滑多少天？
Joe:我喜歡滑道外（注：道外指未經(jīng)機(jī)壓的野雪），現(xiàn)在還經(jīng)常滑道外。但是，到了一定年齡，你就往回縮縮。過去我是啥道都滑，現(xiàn)在我不那么做了，因?yàn)殡S著年齡增長，你變得更明智了嘛。每年大約滑40到50天吧，包括教課的日子在內(nèi)。
(圖片：Joe Hayes，攝影：Brad Coman）
Sue:我知道你在退休前是學(xué)校老師，后來當(dāng)了校長。你當(dāng)時(shí)在學(xué)校教什么課呢？在學(xué)校教書和滑雪學(xué)校教滑雪有什么相同之處呢？
Joe:我教5到8年級的很多課，比如數(shù)學(xué)和科學(xué)等。你在課堂上和滑雪學(xué)校做的事差不多。最開始，你找出他們想知道什么，想做什么，然后你評估他們能做什么，你和他們對于目標(biāo)達(dá)成共識，然后從那開始，最后，你問，“恩，我們做得怎么樣？”
Sue:滑雪似乎是你們家的一個(gè)傳統(tǒng)。我聽說你的女兒是在太浩湖山雪場(Sierra at Tahoe)結(jié)婚的，你拉著她從雪道上滑下去，把她交給新郎。這太酷啦！這個(gè)主意是誰的呢？你女兒滑雪是你教的嗎？
Joe:婚禮的主意是她出的。她還小的時(shí)候我確實(shí)教她滑雪了。我的女兒和兒子后來都拿了三級教練證書。我兒子19歲就拿了頂級教練證書（那時(shí)候，系統(tǒng)和現(xiàn)在有點(diǎn)不一樣，一共只有兩級，他拿到了第二級，相當(dāng)于現(xiàn)在的三級）（畫外音：牛人都是一家子一家子的！）
(圖片：雪場婚禮，來自網(wǎng)絡(luò)）
Joe的故事就講到這里。你的故事呢？不要和我說，我年紀(jì)大了，開始學(xué)什么太晚了，現(xiàn)在就開始吧！我們等著你，來書寫屬于你的人生傳奇！
訪談的英文原文如下：
Sue: Summer is coming. I heard you like mountain biking. How often do you bike? Do you do other sports in summer?
Joe: I bike two days a week and hike one day a week. This year I plan to add paddle-boarding to the routine.
Sue: My parents have been trying to talk me out of skiing as they are afraid I will hurt myself. If I send you to talk to them, what would you tell them?
Joe: Life is dangerous, you may break your ankle even when walking down stairs. It is better to be active than not active.
Sue: I total agree!? But they think I may try something less risky such as swimming and Taichi. I do swim but it is just not the same as skiing.
Joe: I understand where your parents came from.? My grandson is good at both freestyle skiing and soccer. He has the potential to win scholarship for college through soccer. I kind of wish he does more soccer and less skiing as soccer is less risky.? On the other hand, I also saw how skiing can light up a person’s life.? I had a student who almost died of cancer.? I felt so rewarding when I was able to help her enjoy the outside by skiing. It was also a lesson for me in being patient.
Sue: That’s right! I also remember the 70-year-old lady we taught together.? Can you imagine someone at that age has the courage to try skiing the first time? It was so inspiring!? Skiing does come with risks though. How do you control risk to avoid injury?
Joe: To me, the most important risk control strategy is to maintain your condition. I exercise 6 days a week. Besides biking and hiking I mentioned before, I also go to gym 3 days a week. In gym I do a combination of cardio, stretch and weight training. I also stretch at home as a morning routine after getting out of bed: the stretch routine combines some yoga movements and some movements I learned from Robin Barnes (Alpine demo team member) and Greg Lyons (PSIA west division director) earlier years. I also use a foam roller to help loosen up the muscles on the leg and back.
Sue: How did you discover the passion about skiing?
Joe: I started at age 23 when I got involved in kids ski program in the school district. I learned to ski and also teach kids of ten eleven years old to ski.? I liked it immediately and never stopped since then.
Sue: Everybody is telling me level 3 certificate is very difficult to get. Where were the challenges for you and how did you overcome them?
Joe: I actually failed three times and decided to give up. I continued to practice though. I often followed the level 3 instructors to ski. One day I ran into Tim Rankins (Level 3 ski instructor and PSIA examiner) on the bumps, he asked me why I did not take level 3 exam.? I told him I gave up.? He said, you will pass this time. I went ahead and passed the exam. To me, medium radius turns on the bumps was a big challenge.
Sue: What kind of skiing do you enjoy the most? How many days do you ski in average each season?
Joe: I love to ski off-piste, and still ski off-piste a lot. However, when you get to a certain age, you back off a little. I used to be able to take any terrain, I choose not to do it anymore because you get older and you get wiser. In terms of number of days, average 40 to 50 days including those days for teaching.
Sue: I know you were a teacher and later a school principal before retirement. What subjects did you teach at school? What’s the similarity between teaching at school and teaching at ski school?
Joe: I taught fifth to eighth grade on many subjects such as math and science. You do the same thing in classroom and at ski school. First, you find out what they'd like to know and what they'd like to do. Then you assess what they can do, and you come to a mutual contract of what they'd like to accomplish in the lesson. You go from there, and then in the end, you say, 'Well, how did we do?'
Sue: Skiing appears to be a family tradition for your family. I heard that your daughter got married at Sierra at Tahoe and you skied down the runs with her to hand her over to the groom. That’s super cool.? Who came up with this wedding idea?? Were you the one who taught her to ski?
Joe: The wedding idea was hers. I did teach her to ski when she was little. Both my daughter and son are later level 3 certified. My son got full cert at age 19 (At that time, the system was different, there were only two levels, and he got the second level which is equivalent to the current level 3).
